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HomeMy WebLinkAbout05-04-16 BABAB MinutesBABAB Meeting Notes, May 4, 2016 Present: Sam Haraldson, Dillon Warn, John Vandelinder, Jason Karp, Carson Taylor, Officer James Lusby, Zach Stiffel, Tony LeBaron, Jen Petersen, Jason Delmue Presenters: Marliee Brown, Ralph X, and Danielle Scharff A.Meeting Called To Order at 6:05 p.m. (Quorum Determined) B.Approved April Meeting Minutes C.Public Comment – None D.Kagy Boulevard Reconstruction Presentation by Danielle Scharff from Sanderson Stewart -Synopsis of goals of the project -Extents of reconstruction -Stakeholders: MOR, GVLT, Bozeman Health, MSU, COB, MDT -Progress to date: define goals and objectives, completed field work; traffic volume projections done; analyze and develop alternatives; public forum -Single lane option includes raised buffer with separated bike lanes plus a shared use path or any combination of options, depending on ROW acquired (public comment was 80% in favor of this option) -Jason D. asked about how round-a-bouts would work with a four lane option and how it effects ped crossings along Kagy Boulevard -Intersection diagrams using traditional bike approaches also shown -Sam asked about ROW and if there was enough for corridor enhancements and round-a-bout development at all intersections -Consultant team also looked at what was going to happen at South Wilson/South 3​rd​ Street intersection -Danielle said she has more detailed graphics of this elsewhere -TDM Slide (like Munster Slide): examples for Bozeman: incentives, carpools, vanpools, guaranteed ride home, alternative scheduling of classes and work, telecommute -Ped and bike accommodations: grade separated a priority, most definitely at mid-block by stadium -Grade separated concepts shown including pedestrian tunnel (split level design and pedestrian bridge where road is slightly depressed -Jason asked if they would be ADA compliant. Danielle said yes. -All graphics are on project website -Bike/Ped intersection treatments, Dutch style modeled after FHWA -Aesthetics are important also -John asked one or two season construction schedule? MDT process of design takes extra time and since MDT has not agreed with City on all issues, this is still pending. -Jason asked how future streets (like Graf) will affect the project: Danielle said future development is being taken into consideration. -Tony asked about mode share split and would it be positively affected by ped and bike infrastructure -Jason asked if road would still be open on game day -Sam asked how the bike lanes would merge into north and south streets if they weren’t included in project -Carson said that assumption is that area will grow and potential growth is to the south and utility buildout will potentially affect annexation of county properties in this area, making Kagy Boulevard and South 19​th​ Avenue more of a driving priority route; a certain amount of car traffic is to be expected despite the best efforts of TDM -Jason asked about potential for gravity main to serve west of town; Carson said “lift” is in works; Danielle said city was a big part of modeling discussion on expansion of housing -Danielle would like letter from BABAB in regards to the number of vehicle lanes desired, intersection treatments, and bike/ped corridor treatments; John asked when she would like to have the letter; Danielle said by 2​nd​ or 3​rd​ week of July; BABAB to form sub-committee to draft letter for consideration at June meeting by larger group -Sam asked if there is any leeway on the 35 mph speed limit proposed; Danielle said they have looked at traffic calming but the speed has not been determined yet -The Pedestrian Traffic Safety Committee meets next week where Danielle will present -Carson asked Danielle about what is ultimate plan for Kagy Boulevard east of Wilson; Danielle said Rob Bukvich explained that segment acquired the ROW at the time and the curb to curb is built to accommodate within a 4-5 lane design if necessary E.Bozeman to Belgrade Path/Trail -Marilee said that their group only needs ten more signatures to reach 3,000 on their petition for the path project to move to the next step -The letter can then be sent to MDT to show public support for the project -On May 25​th​ the City of Belgrade, City of Bozeman, Gallatin County, and other stakeholders will meet at a regularly scheduled staff meeting and they will discuss further there -Ralph Zimmer wanted to make progress with bringing together stakeholders and getting topic out in the open -Joe Gilpin wrote chair of TCC explaining why 2007 Transportation Master Plan did not identify path along Frontage Road as separated vs. a shoulder-type path, which he think makes most sense…Ralph says BABAB should have an opinion on what is more desirable for cyclists -Sam asked who is going to moderate meeting aforementioned; Ralph said either him or Craig Woolard -Jason Karp said if there was a staff meeting he would be present given his position with the City of Belgrade -Corridor study RFQ’s were received by MDT, which were due in April -What is BABAB’s stance on separated path vs. shoulder path (Joe’s advice would be to choose more conservative option just to get something in place) -Marilee said this is the perfect situation for a TIGER grant -Sam said that if they build a shoulder solution and then no one uses it then that was silly -Ralph said people are talking too much about cost but they need to focus on value -Joe Gilpin mentioned outside of this meeting that other trails offer more advantages than the Belgrade to Bozeman proposal, siting as an example the Missoula to Lolo path, which is an established cross-country route) -Sam said that there are those that are comfortable with shoulder but BABAB made a stance previously on advocating for a separated path; Candace added that roads have been designed for the dumbest drivers but our bicycle facilities are designed for the most experienced and comfortable riders…why is that? -Marilee said it’s about doing it right the first time -BABAB made a recommendation to support a separated bike path in the past and Sam feels like we should still support that original decision; the board agreed F.City Commission Presentation Follow-Up -Commissioners want list of specific projects/recommendations that BABAB wants to see done -Jason D. said that Commissioner Miehl asked for funding sources without a general fund in place -Carson said that our tax structure needs to change to appropriate where $ goes -Boulder, CO went after a transportation tax, we might want to communicate with them and see how it’s going -Jason asked why it’s so easy to pass so many other levies and tax initiatives like schools, for example, but nothing for transportation infrastructure; Marilee said it needs to be special election county-wide where it’s not coming out of city budget or competing with other initiatives -Sam asked if we need to get a list together; John said yes, it would be helpful, especially for year-end funds; Carson said a list of prioritized projects is a good idea; Sam said he thinks it’s a good idea too and gave BABAB a sense of purposed; Sam asked that we start to formulate ideas at the next meeting G.Bike to Work Week -No update H.BABAB Leadership -Sam will take August chair and Bill C. will take June; Candace voted in as Secretary I.Old Business -None J.New Business -Jason D. asked about who is keeping up on maintaining the Facebook page; Sam is taking care of this -Jason D. said Commissioner Meihl and Carson were advocating for bicycle connectivity with school board development; people wonder why general UDO rules are not followed for site and landscaping issues; landscaping parking lots is something schools don’t want to follow for their safety reasons -Tony said “Practical Bicycling” by Sam at Bike Kitchen coming up K.Meeting Adjourned at 8:17 p.m.