HomeMy WebLinkAbout05-11-16 CAHAB MinutesCommunity Affordable Housing Advisory
Board
Wednesday, May 11, 8:00am, City Commission Chamber – 121 N. Rouse
Ave.
A. 08:04:24 AM Call meeting to order
David Magistrelli – present
Sharon Southard – Present
Melvin Howe – Present
Kevin Thane – Present
Mary Martin – Present
Sean Maloney ‐ Present
Anders Lewendal – Present
Hattie Baker – Present
Brian Lameres – Present
Wendy Thomas – Present
B. 08:04:37 AM Changes to the Agenda – no changes to the agenda
C. 08:04:40 AM Public Comment
Heather Grenier – HRDC – 32 S. Tracey – Stated that they have received interest in the affordable
housing program. Currently they have received applications from 200 households. They are running all
of the numbers currently 50% of the people who have applied can fit in the 80‐100% AMI price range.
Stated they have been given the opportunity to purchase 75 homes from the Bachin. Looks to be about
$30,000 each.
08:07:22 AM No additional public comment.
D. 08:07:31 AM Minutes – March 9 and April 13, 2016
David Magistrelli moves to approve the minutes – second by Kevin Thane
Board approves unanimously.
E. Special Presentation – Introduction of new staff (Thomas) – moved to
later as staff was not present.
G. 08:08:28 AM Action Items
1. Cottage Housing Program (Saunders/Thomas)
08:08:39 AM Chris Saunders begins presentation of the Cottage Housing Ordinance. Beginning with
background of Cottage Housing Program.
Chris Saunders provides the demographics of people living in Bozeman.
08:13:07 AM Mr. Saunders begins explaining what Cottage Housing is and provided some examples of
cottage‐style housing currently in the City and outside of the City.
08:19:20 AM Mr. Saunders begins discussing the approval process for these types of projects.
Mr. Saunders begins explaining how the lots are distributed with Independent lots and Dependent lots.
The flexibility with lot size and orientation. The flexibility with the lot dimensions will require additional
design standards. There will be no price restrictions on the units. You can double the density in a district
using the cottage housing ordinance.
08:26:12 AM Mr. Saunders gives examples of what the goals are and are not.
Mr. Saunders states that you can request modifications to any of the standards currently in place.
Mr. Saunders discusses square foot requirements.
08:29:13 AM Mr. Saunders discusses density requirements and the requirement of a percentage of
affordable housing mixed in.
08:30:45 AM Mr. Saunders discusses parking requirements.
08:32:11 AM Mr. Saunders discusses amendments to the code that will be a result of this.
08:32:33 AM Mr. Saunders discusses the challenges with this program.
08:35:30 AM Mr. Saunders end presentation.
08:35:38 AM Open to questions for staff
Mr. Thane states that as it is written it’s targeting affordable housing. He questions if we can change it
to not tie it to affordable housing. Mr. Saunders states that they could make it not tied to affordable
housing, but that it was specifically presented to target affordable housing, so they will keep it tied to it.
Mr. Thane states that the goals are written in a restrictive way – and questions if they could change it to
make it less restrictive. Mr. Saunders states that they could change the wording to make it more
attractive, but it needs to be clear that there are standards that need to be upheld.
08:38:15 AM Mr. Thane states he will be submitting some written suggestions to Mr. Saunders.
Mr. Thane states that if this is targeted to affordable housing, there are a number of requirements that
make the program less affordable.
08:41:41 AM Hattie Baker questions if the cottage houses will qualify as condos or single family homes.
Mr. Saunders explains difference between condos and fee simple homes.
Hattie Baker questions what process is in place for informing developers of what is available in terms of
incentives for affordable housing. Mr. Saunders states that typically when developers come to us, they
have a project planned. Instead the City pushes information out to organizations to let them know what
options are available.
08:43:38 AM Sharon Southard questions how the common areas are owned. Mr. Saunders explains in
details.
08:45:10 AM Anders Lewendal states that he feels this would be a good addition to the code. He states
if 33% of the community wants to live alone, then it seems like a nice option to hit all price points. Mr.
Saunders explains that these would be available at any price point. A max of 30% will be required at
affordable price points.
Mr. Lewendal states that he feels like this is a design guideline – he thinks that there should be more
flexibility for creativity. He also question why we can’t build smaller units – there is an interest in smaller
units. Mr. Saunders responds that there is flexibility for smaller homes.
Mary Martin states that she would encourage creativity, but doesn’t want someone to drive down the
street and say “oh that’s the affordable home”.
Mr. Maloney questions what the minimum square footage would be. Mr. Saunders responds in detail.
08:51:00 AM Kevin Thane questions if there is flexibility with lot size. Mr. Saunders responds in detail.
Kevin Thane questions if there is a procedure in place for requesting exemptions from the standards.
Mr. Saunders explains the process.
Kevin Thane questions the language regarding infrastructure being set in place. Mr. Saunders explains
the infrastructure component and why it’s required to be set in place. Discussion between Mr. Thane
and Mr. Saunders regarding infrastructure.
08:56:07 AM Anders Lewendal questions why they decided not to use condominiums. Mr. Saunders
responds. Discussion between Mr. Lewendal and Mr. Saunders regarding fee simple vs. condominium
ownership.
Board continues discussion regarding condominium and fee simple ownership and affordability.
09:03:00 AM Mr. Thane questions if Mr. Saunders could provide the slide show presented today to the
board to review.
09:03:24 AM Lucy Pope – Alliance for Building Communities – States that she is encouraged by the
conversation about options. States that we should consider tying land and home ownership together.
09:05:24 AM Brian Geyer – HRDC – 32 S. Tracey questions if this only applies to R2 and R3 due to the
restrictions on number of units per lot. Mr. Saunders states that it is allowable in R1, and you would
need to aggregate enough land to make this allowable.
09:07:13 AM Mr. Lewendal questions coops per Lucy Pope’s comment. Mr. Saunders responds.
09:08:53 AM Brought back up to the board for motion discussion and vote.
David Magistrelli moves to recommend approval of the cottage housing ordinance to the City
Commission.
Mary Martin seconds.
Kevin Thane recommends that they amend the motion to include all housing, not direct it at affordable
housing only.
Melvin Howe seconds the amended motion.
Mr. Lewendal states that he supports affordable housing, but agrees with Kevin Thane.
Mary Martin states that she supports the ordinance as it stands. It’s a plan to address affordable housing
and it should stay.
Sharon Southard states that if you don’t leave that in there, you will have cottage houses at $400‐
$500,000.
Kevin Thane states that is fine. You will have the requirement for affordable housing under the
affordable housing ordinance, but this will leave the option open for more
Vote on the amendment to the motion:
Melvin Howe, Kevin Thane, Anders Lewendal Approve
Sharon Southard, David Magistrelli, Sean Maloney, Mary Martin and Brian Lameres oppose.
Vote on the main motion
Kevin Thane opposes all other approve.
Main motion passes.
2. 09:18:19 AM City land on which affordable housing could be placed (Thane)
Board discusses whether they should move this to the next meeting given time constraints on the
meeting.
Board agrees to table the discussion.
09:19:01 AM Open to public comment – no public comment.
09:19:11 AM David Magistrelli suggests making it the first item on the agenda next month.
H. 09:19:32 AM FYI/Discussion
1. 09:19:40 AM Location of meetings after July, 2016 (Thomas)
Wendy Thomas advises the board that the meetings will be moved in August due to room conflicts.
2. 09:20:38 AM Small House Discussion with HRDC (Lewendal)
Mr. Lewendal informs the board on his discussion with HRDC the previous evening. He stated he would
like to address smaller homes.
09:23:18 AM Wendy Thomas introduces the board to Mayana Rice who will be the new staff liaison for
the board.
09:24:30 AM Mayana Rice provides a little background about herself.
I. 09:25:08 AM Adjournment – 9:30
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